Wednesday, November 23, 2011

City Clerks Office Continual Fail



According to the City web site, "City Council minutes are semi-verbatim and are available on the web and for general distribution approximately two to three weeks after a Council meeting date."

So why did it take the City Clerk and City Council 18 weeks to post the July 25, 2011 minutes?

On November 14, 2011 Charlotte City Council approved the minutes for the following dates which where posted on line the following day:

July 25, 2011 Business Meeting
August 22, 2011 Business Meeting
September 6, 2011 Tour and Closed Session
September 12, 2011 Business Meeting
September 19, 2011 Zoning Meeting

That still leaves:

September 26, 2011
October 3, 2011
October 10, 2011
October 17, 2011
November 14, 2011

Which have not been presented, approved and posted. Going on 8 weeks. Wow!

North Carolina law requires that the minutes be "accurate". So does the City Clerk feel that "semi-verbatim" is good enough for "accurate"?

Another interesting point is that all communication with city council members is public record. This includes emails, but more than 1/2 the city council members use as their offical email address, one that is outside the relm of the city computers.

So who insures that emails sent to offsite private email addy's are preserved?

Cedar's Take: North Carolina has some pretty simple sunshine laws. But Charlotte's City Council seems to be of the thinking that they are about the rules.


Cedar Posts has emailed the City Clerks Office for an explaination as to why the delay in posting the Charlotte City Council minutes. So far silence.

Cedar Extra Credit: Explore North Carolina's Open Records Laws here.

23 comments:

Anonymous said...

The problem is that Cmpd is stonewalling on the majority of Open Records requests that Citynewswatch has asked for, and the City Attorneys seem to be complicit in this.

And while this technically may not be "against the law".... it seems to go against every moral AND ethical code.

Anonymous said...

The questions that the MEDIA should be asking and investigating, and other government agencies should be investigating are about the total and complete lack of transparency and oversight in all of city, county and cmpd operations.

Here is the ladder of corruption:
Foxx and City Council
Curt Walton
Rodney Monroe

Foxx RAN HIS CAMPAIGN on lower crime......

Curt Walton hired Rodney Monroe, either knowing about his very shady background, OR, not doing a thorough enough background check, take your pick.

Rodney Monroe, well, what can you say that has not already been said about his total lack of ethics, his willingness to cover up, lie...and cheat? And to enlist a whole Police Department and the Police attorneys to enable him to stonewall, obfuscate, outright lie, and lie about crime stats?

Corruption. At all levels of operation.

Folks, we are not BECOMING another Detroit, we have surpassed Detroit.

Anonymous said...

And wasn't Rodney's "right hand man", ,Medlock, over the Academy when the big cheating scandal broke bad?
Wonder what Medlock has "missed" or "overlooked" on his subsequent "commands"?

If you "lie down with dogs, you will get up with fleas".

I would say there is a flea infestation at CMPD and CC.

Anonymous said...

Is there any honest officer in Internal Affairs?

The old ones who were ousted for actually trying to rid CMPD of this corrupt behavior--all the way to the top.

Are there any honest people working in the computer systems department? Officers who will tell what they have been doing? Attorneys no longer willing to risk licenses and charges, who will tell the truth before it's too late?

Providing false information & refusing information requests IS against the law as well as moral and ethical codes. City Council & the Mayor have written ethical codes they are not following. Sticking your head in the sand and hoping no criminal charges will come is not a good strategy. Believing you have such control over so many people is delusional. It's already coming out.

Foxs admitted he made up the jobs numbers he campaigned on, but no media outlets said a word about it.

The regular media outlets have become as scared or lazy as the bad cops rolling over for this.
Most of Charlotte won't care until they have a direct problem.

Anonymous said...

And Medlock was promoted to "in charge of DNC 2012 Security."

Makes you wonder if the records "disappeared" on purpose, doesn't it? Something in those records Monroe didn't want available?

Anonymous said...

Amazing most people who comment here don't realize this CP article is about the City Clerks office not CMPD. Morons.

Anonymous said...

guess incompetent portion of CMPD just checked in... anything to try to deflect the truth

Anonymous said...

Anon 1:34
It's all linked Moron, it's all linked.

Corrution begats corruption, get it?

Anonymous said...

They don't get it yet, but when Federal handcuffs come out, they will.

Anonymous said...

I'd like to know when the US Attorney will get off thier hands or are they tied to the DOJ like the gun running charges. This happens when uneducated voters vote.

Anonymous said...

part of the campaign to keep Charlotte from knowing what CMPD and Walton are doing, and Foxx & City Council

if you're not in the inner circle, you don't get to know how Foxx & Council are designating YOUR money to be spent in some ways they shouldn't.

Anonymous said...

As many of you know I have complaining about Council members using their "private" emails for a year now! That way they "think" they are not "legally" bound by the law...however, if ANY city biz was transacted or discussed (we all know Cannon used his to scare off one group of folks he didn't want to convene here) then that private email can become "open"....

Anonymous said...

Is there any honest officer in Internal Affairs?

The old ones who were ousted for actually trying to rid CMPD of this corrupt behavior--all the way to the top.

Oh yeah we all know why the IA team in place when Ruttmutt got here is no longer in place...THEY didn't play!

Anonymous said...

Patsy Kinsey says the whole council met behind closed doors for hours discussing Monroe's past PRIOR to hiring him! Although SHE didn't agree with hiring him, the others did.... but they KNEW about his past!

GUESS WHO HIS MAJOR SUPPORTERS WERE?
Walton & Cannon, Barnes...anyone else surprised?

Anonymous said...

is this a public statement from Kinsey in a report somewhere, or private?

Anonymous said...

ANON - 10:58 PM

It was a comment she made to me at a function downtown right after Monroe was hired....

Anonymous said...

Well, they all knew about his 'past' and they all know what he's been doing here in Charlotte, up through present. And they continue to inflict this on Charlotte, fully informed.
Motivations and links will be examined closely.

ThaQueenCity said...

Well, there went my respect for Ms. Patsy. I always thought she would at least stand up when she saw something wrong :-( Don't know why I am surprised though....seems the whole City Council is in on the corruption and they just don't care. How sad for all we citizens!

Anonymous said...

Anonymous November 23, 2011 1:10 PM

Regarding your IA post. There is not a single member in there that is an honest officer in IA. Starting from the Sgts all the way to the Majors and so on. They are just looking to find someone to burn on trival BS. While they sweep under the rug the real complaints in which they should be looking into. The whole CMPD has become one huge cover up.

Anonymous said...

When IA is exposed it's going to be much worse than Marcus Jackson.

Anonymous said...

Who is the Major over IA? Zinkann's BIG Buddy, Cam Selby.......so what do you expect? He is just like everyone else at CMPD now...only interested in his own promotions helped by massive amounts of ass kissing!

It is embarrassing....how do these people have ANY self respect, any dignity?? Even in their own litte worlds of total denial, some sanity and truth must seep in occassionally??

What I hear as a constant from people at CMPD is about the treachery there. The absolute willingness of people to lie, cheat, misrepresent, cover up and throw anyone under the bus if it in ANY way benefits them and their equally morally challenged repulsive friends.

Corruption is a nasty, contagious thing that once accepted spreads like a virulent virus.

At CMPD, it has become a plague.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous November 25, 2011 12:21 PM

You got it. There is no more watching each other's back at CMPD. It is who can screw you over first. It sucks how all the SPINELESS WEASELS manage to keep their jobs. But the ones who do the real work and do suck people off and kick ass. They are the ones that get thrown underneath the bus within CMPD. CMPD'S IA has become a bigger joke than it was before.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous November 25, 2011 12:21 PM

There was a typo in my previous post. It meant to say for those that don't suck people off or kiss their asses. Are the ones which get thrown underneath the bus.